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quick as I could and got her back into writing. She wanted to try it because you get
tired. It gets to be a grind on the road. They just got back from London, so I don't
know what kind of grind that was. Being inside, she felt like a caged animal. I've got
two deputies out there, that's what we do. We know what we need to do and with
her it just didn't work. It did for me.
Just like you don't feel comfortable doing it. Maybe that's just not your
calling. Maybe that tells you that they're trying to put you somewhere you don't
need to be.
0: I guess time will tell.
W: But don't close the door, because you might end up really liking it.
0: And I like the design elements, but being cooped up kind of gets to me every now
and then.
W: Yeah, she did not like that. And she was a really good writer. Some people like
the routine and some people don't. I think she really liked the writing challenges.
Getting something done on deadline.
0: So back to Sporting News. What was that like?
W: It was like walking into a museum. I was the - what was my official title?
"Director of design," or something like that. So I had the photo people and I worked
with the designers to get the magazine out each week. I would go pull photos and
stuff like that for the designer. You'd look and you'd see autographed photos from
Babe Ruth and it was just like walking into - you were just in awe of this place. It
was like a big family.
It was such an odd schedule that we were on because we would finish the
magazine every Sunday night, so we had Saturdays off, but we worked all day
Sunday until, like, 2 or 3 in the morning. Then we'd have Mondays off. So we'd have
these split days off, which was weird. But they had a really good stable of writers
that we worked with. Like I said, there were Texans, a couple of guys that used to be
at the Star-Telegram with me were there and it was just kind of neat being at the
Sporting News. You always heard about the Sporting News. You'd get one and you'd
see all these fantastic columns and stuff and it was just like that.
Only we were trying to bring it into the 20th century. It was probably back in
the 19th century. And some things happened. They used to run box scores for the
week of everybody. So if you were an Oriole fan and you wanted to see how your
team did all week - you might live in LA or something - you could go back and get
a Sporting News and see how everybody did. That went out the door. Of course, if we
were here, that would be like if we stopped having comics or something. People
[were] really up in arms about it.
0: You mentioned the dresses being the only challenge, but sounds like changing the
magazine was another challenge you faced, too.
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Copeland, Alex; Gutierrez, Tony; O'Hanlon, Adrian & Williams, Celeste. Oral History Interview with Celeste Williams, November 13, 2014, text, November 13, 2014; (https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth586986/m1/4/?q=Lamar+University: accessed June 4, 2024), University of North Texas Libraries, The Portal to Texas History, https://texashistory.unt.edu; crediting UNT Frank W. and Sue Mayborn School of Journalism.