Christian Messenger (Bonham, Tex.), Vol. 5, No. 37, Ed. 1 Wednesday, September 17, 1879 Page: 4 of 8
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C H RI S T'J A ft M E ;S S E N G E11.
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TBE MESSENGER.
T. K. BURKETT,
Editor.
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associate editors:
Chas Cvblton, C. Kbndricki
J &£. Biard, B. C. Horn
G. W. Williams.
Wednesday, skpt. 17, 1879.
Brq*Chas. Carlton will preach
at Honey Grove, Texas, on
next Lord's day, morning and
night.
Bonham Seminary wants
more students to occupy the
talents of her teachers. Send
them along, the terms are as
reasonable as elsewhere.
Bro. S. R. Ezzell, the Texas
author, is at Bonham Jo-day,
and Will spend several days
in the county, preaching and
selling the Great Legacy.
The Methodist preacher of
this place, referred to in the
last issue of the Messenger,
says he is not opposed to Bible
classes in any sense, and that
there was a misunderstanding.
TVe are glad to hear it.
Bro. Ezzell will begin a series
pf lectures at Union, three
miles north of Bonham, to-
morrow night, and continue un-
til after Lord’s day. He will
begin at Henderson’s chapel
on Tuesday night next, and
continue several nights.
TVe want an active worker
far the Messenger in every
church in the state. If breth*
ren (and sisters) would give
their attention to this business,
a great deal of good might be
done for the paper and for the
cause.
That charming letter from
Sister Bernice Peyton reminds
us that many bf the sisters
might write for <he columns of
the Messenger. Remember,
Paul never said, “I suffer not
a woman to speak in the news-
papers.”
We. have received from John
Burns, publisher, St. Louis, a
new book, entitled, “Sympo-
sium on the Holy Spirit,” by
A. B. Jones, Thos. Munnell, G
W. Longan and J. Z. Taylor, a
sort of quadrangular discussion
of spiritual influence by these
four brethren. It will pay to
read it. Price, 75c.
Not long ago a suggestion
was made to a church, that al
the sisters agree among them
selves to wear calico dresses to
meeting, and nothing finer, as
that would encourage the poor
er classes to attend. Any
church that will adopt the sug
gestion shall have a favorable
mention in the Christian Mes
SKNGER.
The Meeting at Center Grove.
Center Grove is a small meet-
ing-house 12 miles north-east of
Bonham, in Fannin county—
on the north side of Bois d’ Arc
creek. We had no church
there, but a few scattering
members, who thought that a
protracted meeting might re-
sult in some good to the cause
and perhaps the establishment
of a congregation. The breth-
ren came for us in a two-horse
wagon on Friday, and our work
>egan ou Friday night, with a
landful of hearers. On Sat-
urday night there was a good
audience, and we held service
under an arbor. On Sunday
here was one confession and
baptism, and more or less ad-
ditions every night during the
week. The work continued un-
il the Sunday following, and
closed at the water. There
were nine baptized, one im-
mersed Methodist took mem-
bership, several prodigals re-
stored, and some forty old
members gathered up—making
a cohgregation of fifty-five
members. Bro. Black was
chosen as elder, and Bros.
Stansell and Woods as dea
cons. Bro. Henderson will
'breach for them once a month,
n future. Theie was little op-
position to the good work by
any one in the neighborhood.
3ome of the Methodists got a
ittle warm, and the Baptist
preacher was out one night
warning his brethren against
the heresy of water salvation.
The Methodist minister said
any preacher that said there
were two covenants preached a
falsehood. But he forgot that
Paul used this language:
“Which things are an allegory,
for these are the Two cove
nants.” Possibly he never
read that part of Paul’s writ-
ings. One Methodist man was
“nearly dead to ask some ques-
tions,” one of which was,where
did the preacher get his au-
thority for saying there was a
river running by the city of
Philippi ? He had not read the
jconversion of Lydia. A Bap-
tist lady got quite sick under
the sermon on the anxious
seat, as a system for convert-
ing God, and did not come out
to meeting anymore. She said
she never would hear another
Campbellite preacher, and her
children never should hear one
while she lived, and on her
death-bed she was going to
charge her friends never to let
her children go to one of their
meetings. But'this was only
an exceptional case. The peo-
ple of the community attended
the meeting punctually, and
gave good heed to what
was spoken. More of them
will yet accept the truth. Sev-
eral were convinced that they
were not on the right founda
tion. One of the persons bap-
tized had been a Methodist
class-leader eight years, and he
will be a valuable acquisition
to the cause in that vicinity.
He is a solid, good man, and
can talk, sing, pray, and help
lead the meetings of the breth-
ren. There was much rejoic-
ing at the success of the work
at Center Grove, by the dis-
started in their community.
All they need, now is to be
faithful—to live right,act right,
and not fail of assembling
themselves together. Bro. Wil-
lie Lair was with us on Lord’s
day, and preached in the after-
noon. This was all the help we
had during the meeting, except
one prayer by the Baptist min-
ister. Our Methodist and Bap-
tist friends united their forc-
es, and began a protracted
meeting the day wo closed.
This is one good result of the
meeting, if there had been no
more—to unite two churches.
The brethren raised a small
contribution for our necessities,
and will sqnd in more when
they sell their cotton.
The SabbAth Again.
The Methodists began a pro-
tracted meeting at Bonham,
Texas, on la§t Saturday week,
and have continued day and
night to the present time. Some
of their ablest ministers have
been in attendance — Revs.
Binkley, Rogers, Cottingham,
Proctor and Bush—with Drs.
Boude and Johnson, of the
Presbyterian church. But the
results so far have been mea-
ger. The prearching has been
able, (of the kind,) bui the
people of Bonham have learn-
ed thai mourning-bench reli-
gion is not the religion of the
New Testament. Ic will take
remarkably hard work to start
a revival of that kind in this
town. Our Baptist friends
trred it in vain. How we wish
all' this active zeal and fine
preaching talent could be ex-
pended iii the propagation of
pure Bib|p Christianity!
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The Texas Christian Advo-
cate calls the holiness people
at Corsicana, “those daft and
deluded men.” How is that,
Dr. John ? The holiness peo-
ple go to the mourning-beach
and pray for instantaneous
sanctification by a direct oper
ation of the Spirit, just like
you Methodists pray for par-
don and a change of heart, and
they rise up shouting and testi-
fying to all around that they
are sanctified and have the ev-
idence in their hearts. Is not
their proof just like yours? and
do you not both hang on the
same peg ? And how can peo
pie receive your testimony anc
reject theirs ? Tell us about it.
At the Methodist camp meet-
ing four miles north of Bonham,
it is said, three persons “led in
prayer” at the same lime.
Sometimes hundreds of per-
sons prayed out loud at the
same time. It was “confusion
confounded,” and reminded
those who witnessed it of the
occurrence on Mount Carmel,
when the priests of Baal tried
to attract the attention of their
sleepy god by excessive bodily
ilemonstrations and loud
noises. The religion of thelciples there. They had been
Bible is one of reason and living out of doors so long, it
We have a new book this
week, from the Central Book
Concern, Cincinnati—the Life
of Knowles Shaw, the Singing
Evangelist. It is written by
Wm. Baxter, and is a book o
some 240 pages, handsomely
bound, and bearing a life-like
picture of the celebrated evan
gelist, as he stood preaching
before the weeping multitudes
in Dallas, Texas, two days be
fore his death. No ‘ one wil
read this volume and regret the
paltry price he paid for it.
Send $1.25 to Central Book
Concern, Cincinnati, or to L. D.
Myers, Dallas, and get the
book.
Bro. Burnett:
A few days since I heard an
aged and venerable gentleman
make the following expression:
“I have examined all the re-
ligious doctrines now in exist-
ence. I am satisfied.” And I
suppose he was, for he sent
Dack to Kentucky for a Hard-
shell preacher to come out here
and i^ptize him. Said he, ‘‘I
embraced a doctrine, and* I will
lear no other, and if every
verson would do that we would
not be bothered with so many
new doctrines.” Now, I was
raised by-Methodist parents,
and if I had not heard any
other doctrine I would be a
Methodist to-day. But I heard,
relieved and obeyed the things
taught me by the Christian
jreachersv But when 1 joined
he church I never joined with
a determination to remain in
t regardless of any other doc-
trine that might be presented.
Now, I apply to you for infor-
mation. I also understand
that Bro. T, E. Stirman will
preach for us at the Knob on
;he fourth Sunday in this
month. I have a question for
you and him to answer, and if
you do not answeT it with
scriptural proof, I will make
another change. It is this: Can
you show where the fourth
commandment contained in the
decalogue known as the ten
commandments was abolished?
Don’t say anything about Kil-
gore nor Adventism, but an-
swer the question.
A. Vandiver.
Yes, we can show you where
the fourth commandment of
the decalogue was abolished.
Read II. Cor. iii. 7-13: “But if
the ministration of death, writ-
ten and engraven in stones,
was glorious, so that the chil-.
dren of Israel could hot stead-
fastly behold the face of Mo-
sep, for the glory of his coun-
tenance, which gldry was to be
done away, how shall not the
ministration of the Spirit be
rather glorious. * * For if
that which was done away
was glorious, much more that
which remaineth is glorious.
Seeing then that we have such
hope, we use great plainness of
speech, and not as Moses,which
put a veil over his face,that the
children of Israel could not
steadfastly look to the end of
that which is abolished.” So
also Col. ii. 14-17: “Blotting
out the hand-writing of ordi-
nances that was against us,and
took it out of the way, nailing
it to the cross. * Let no man
therefore judge you in meat or
in drink, or in respect of a holy
day, or of the new moon, or of
the Sabbath days, which are a
shadow of things to come, but
the body is of Christ.” If Bro.
Vandiver is in the body of
Christ, he should not let any
man judge him in regard to the
Sabbath, for the body is of
Christ, not of Moses. The ten
commandments were written
White Mound, Grayson
Co., Tex., Sept. 9,1879.
Bro. Burnett:
I wish to ask a few questions
through your paper, in regard
to baptism.
Bro. Mclntire held a three-
days’ meeting at this place,
and has got matters troubled
to some extent. Some of the
members have become dissatis-
fied with their former baptism,
and have been re-baptized. Old
Bro. Thomas told his members
that he baptised into the Bap*
tist church. * Well, when a
member is re-baptized under
that head, is he not set back to
where he first started ? If he
was first baptized into the Bap-
tist church, the second step he
S,
was baptized out of the I5ap
tist church. I think he will
have to take the third dip ac-
cording to this theory, to get
into another church. I will il-
lustrate the matter in this man-
ner: Suppose I have three
hundred head of cattle, and
have them branded T. J. M.,
and have my brand recorded in
the clerk’s office, and sell Dong-
Stringer thirty head of catUe
branded in my brand: Well
Doug, wants to brand the cattle
in his brand. The first thing
thac is necessary to be done is
to counter-brand my brand,and
brand in his brand. When
my brand is erased, and the
animal is over three years old,
and running on the commongrhe
is liable to be taken up by any
stock man. But, after the cat-
tle are branded in Doug.’s
brand, and that brand record-
ed, I give it as my opinion that
it will hold good in any court.
Well, I only give this as my
opinion about the matter.
Please give us an explanation
on this. T. J. Milwke.
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We would sooner have Bap-
tist baptism than Mclntire’s
re-baptism. There is some
wrong opinions connected with
their baptism, but his is a clear
perversion of scriptural teach-
ing.—Ed. Messenger.
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Evergreen, Sept. 6,1879.
Bro. Burnett:
After about six months’ in-
v •
cessant labor in the ministry,
holding protracted meetings
with only about ten days' Teat*
I returned home for some two
weefcs’ work on my farm, gath-
ering my crop, which is very
small this year. The result of
my labors, as far as I can'tell,
(not having kept an accurate
record,) is : Received into the
church, in all, 250. This in-
cludes from the Baptists,Meth-
odists, Presbyterians, reclaim-
ed*immersed, etc. Out of thia
number I have immersed this
year 141, accurate record-
The good work still goes on in
onr section. We need more
laborers; that is, if they are
self-denying and self-sustain-
ing. If any of the preaching
brethren see this, and want to
go to work in earnest, get a
partial support and work for
the rest, we say, Come; we
will help you all we can. Now,
Bro. Burnett, if they don’t all
common sense, Ord^r is heav*
en’s first law,'
was like moving home to their
own house to have a church
A good brother said recently
that the reason he did not re-
port his meetings to the Chris-
tian Messenger, he was afraid
people would think him vain.
A wrong conclusion. A mod-
est report will not injure any
good man. The brethren wish
to hear from you—hear what
you are doing.
say “ yes ” at once, we can sup-
ply them—that is, with work.
Your brother,
J. A. Lincoln.
and engraven in stones, and
were “done away,” as Paul
says; hence we should not
keep any of them except such
as we find re-enacted in the
new law. It would be impos-
sible for Bro. Vandiver to find
any command to keep the sab-
bath, even in the old law, for
that was not given to Gentiles,. .
but to the Jews. Are you a I Ciirjst was left ou.t. And then
Jew? Then who ever told you Dr. Pope Yeaman went right
Dr. Pope Yeaman, editor of
the Central Baptist, condemned
the second Baptist church of
Si. Louis for holding a union
service with a Jewish congrega-
tion, in which the name of
to keep the seventh day? If
you keep it because Moses
commanded the Jews to do it,
then you ought to be circum-
cised for the same reason!
Surely, you can not be misled
by these Judaizing Adventists
to do so unreasonable a thing.
dowh to Jackson and delivered
a Masonic address at a corner-
stone laying. If he is consist-
ent, it is hard to condemn the
second church. Masonry leaves
Christ out of its prayers also,
does it not?
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Burnett, Thomas R. Christian Messenger (Bonham, Tex.), Vol. 5, No. 37, Ed. 1 Wednesday, September 17, 1879, newspaper, September 17, 1879; Bonham, Texas. (https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth914265/m1/4/?q=Lamar+University: accessed June 8, 2024), University of North Texas Libraries, The Portal to Texas History, https://texashistory.unt.edu; crediting Bonham Public Library.