Secretary: Thank you
for holding, sir.
Jack: My name is Jack Crout. C-R-O-U-T.
Secretary: Okay,
if you just want me to?
Jack: Yes, I did.
Relay the same message to her.
Secretary: Anyone else,
on the call?
Jack: No, there's no other city council
that I'm trying to reach.
Secretary: Okay.
Jack: Thank you so much.
Secretary: Thank you.
-: [Council's Office] For Jack Crout.
Jack: This is Jack Crout.
-: [Council's Office] This is Ellen,
I'm calling from Councilman Alice's office.
Jack: Yes.
-: [Council's Office] How can we help you?
Jack: We are,
quite frankly,
we're interested in endorsing Mr. Lipscomb,
and we have in the past, or the gay community has,
And, but to do that,
we need for him to return the questionnaire
that we sent him to fill out.
And we need for him to appear
before one of our screening sessions.
-: [Council's Office] Now, obviously
you sent the questionnaire.
Jack: I'm with the Lesbian/Gay Political Coalition.
And we are interested in endorsing Laurie,
even though she has no opponent.
-: [Council's Office] Right.
-: And, but to do that,
we will need for her to do certain things.
And one of them is to complete the questionnaire
that we sent her.
And possibly she's already done that,
as I'm not the person that receives those questionnaires,
-: [Council's Office] Okay.
Jack: But, and secondly,
we would need for her to appear
at a screening session of our endorsement committee.
And how our screening sessions are going to be,
this coming Wednesday, the 25th,
and Thursday, the 26th.
-: [Council's Office] Oh, now she's got something
on her calendar for the LGPC on,
let me see,
for March, 11th at 7:00 PM.
Jack: March 11th? That's not LGPC.
That may be the DJPC.
-: [Council's Office] No, they're on Monday night, tonight.
Jack: No, we have nothing scheduled for March 11th.
Sure don't.
We have the two screening sessions,
which are the 25th and the 26th.
And then we have our regular monthly meeting,
which will be March 3rd.
-: [Council's Office] Okay.
Well she's got a reception in Oak Cliff
on the night of the 25th,
and the evening of the 26th
she'll be at a District Two,
citizens coalition candidate form that evening.
I think she's booked.
Jack: Pretty well booked.
Well, what about March 3rd?
-: [Council's Office] Well she's got the Oakland forum
candidate night that evening,
and has appointments that afternoon till after six.
Jack: Well, possibly until after six.
Well, of course. So March 3rd,
that meeting doesn't start until seven o'clock.
-: [Council's Office] Well, that's when
she has to be at the Oakland forum candidate.
Jack: Oh, uh huh.
Well, we may have to set up a special session with her then,
because I will pass this information on to our president,
and let him know because we would like to endorse her,
but we can't do that unless these other things happen,
you know?
So I will pass the information on.
-: [Council's Office] Okay.
Jack: And I do appreciate your calling me.
-: [Council's Office] You're welcome.
Jack: Thank you so much.
-: [Council's Office] Alrighty, bye bye.
Jack: And there's a parking lot there
at the corner of St. Andrew's and Preston,
you can park there.
And the building's right in front of the parking lot.
Woman: Okay, it's an educational building.
Jack: Right.
Room 206, that's up on the second floor here.
Woman: In the Church.
Thank you. Jack: Well,
thank you so much.
Woman: Okay. Jack: Bye bye.
(phone ringing)
Secretary: Can I help you?
Jack: Hello, this is Jack Crout
from the Lesbian/Gay Political Coalition.
Where are you the person that just called me?
Secretary: No.
Jack: From Al Lipscomb's campaign?
Secretary: No, hold on one moment.
Jack: Okay.
Secretary: Sir? Jack: Yes?
Secretary: Okay. Let me give you a phone number.
Jack: All right.
Secretary: Wait one minute.
You said from the campaign?
Jack: Al Lipscomb. Well,
I don't know where they were calling from.
I thought maybe it's from the office here at city hall.
Secretary: Okay. Hold on.
Let me see if it was Allen, hold on.
(phone ringing)
Ellen: This is Ellen.
[Jack] This is Jack Crout again.
One of the things I don't have for Mr. Lipscomb
is the telephone number of his campaign headquarters.
Ellen: Let me get that to you.
It's 375-0705-0706
Jack: And Oh seven, Oh six.
Okay. Thank you so much.
Ellen: You're welcome.
(phone dialing)
-: [Campaign Manager] Hello?
Jack: May I speak to Mr. Calvin, please?
-: [Campaign Manager] I'm sorry.
This is Sonny, his campaign manager. Can I help you?
Jack: This is Jack Crout
with the Lesbian/Gay Political Coalition.
-: [Campaign Manager] Hello, Jack.
Jack: And Mr. Calvin indicated
that he wanted to screen with us.
-: [Campaign Manager] Yes.
And the biggest problem we have right now
is that the two days that you're doing screening,
we are booked all over the place,
and I'm still trying to find a hole.
Jack: Well, now,
if you can't get in either Wednesday or Thursday,
then on March 3rd, we have our regular meeting,
which will be our candidate's night.
And it will include those who are not able to screen
with us Wednesday or Thursday.
They can come at that time.
-: [Campaign Manager] What do you still have open
Wednesday and Thursday?
Jack: Wednesday and Thursday.
Okay. Wednesday,
I have 8:45 and 9:15.
That's all.
Now Thursday,
-: [Campaign Manager] Are they 15 minutes screenings,
or half hour?
Jack: They're 15 minutes screenings.
3 minutes for the candidate to make a presentation,
and then 12 minutes of questioning.
-: [Campaign Manager] Okay. So on Thursday?
Jack: On Thursday, now we're better off there.
7:30.
-: [Campaign Manager] 7:30? Jack: Yeah,
8:15, 8:30, and 9:15.
-: [Campaign Manager] Okay.
Wonderful. I tell you what, I've got your phone number,
let me look,
cause I didn't think you'd be going that late.
We may actually be better off taking a real late one
and getting through with something early.
Jack: That would be fine.
-: [Campaign Manager] So let me get back with you,
and let you know in the next, oh, few hours.
Jack: All right.
And if I should not be here, I have an answering machine.
-: [Campaign Manager] Good, I'll tell your answering machine.
Jack: Just put the time on the answering machine.
-: [Campaign Manager] All right. Thank you.
Jack: Thank you! -: [Campaign Manager] Bye bye.
(phone ringing)
Jack: Hello? Carol: Jack Crout, please.
Jack: This is Jack Crout.
-: Mr Crout, this is Carol Reed.
Jack: Yes? Carol: How are you today?
Jack: Fine. Carol: Good.
Jack: I am setting up the screening dates for candidates
with the Lesbian/Gay Political Coalition.
And I call him Mr. Gonzales,
and he told me to call you;
that you were taking care of things like that.
Carol: Okay?
Jack: And our screening dates
are this coming Wednesday and Thursday,
the 25th and the 26th.
Carol: Okay.
Jack: And our screening sessions are 15 minutes.
Three minutes for the candidate to make a statement,
and then we question them for 12 minutes.
Carol: Okay.
Jack: And we liked to make definite time appointments,
so it's not to keep candidates waiting.
Carol: Right.
Jack: And Wednesday I still have open
8:45 and 9:15, that's PM of course.
And on Thursday I have open 7:30.
Hello?
Man: Jack, hey,
we aint received one from Irene Young yet.
Jack: Haven't we received a what?
Man: From Irene Young.
Jack: Yeah. She made an appointment to screen.
Man: Okay. Well I have another form from her.
Jack: Yeah.
Man: So I thought we had it.
Jack: I was gonna go down to Craig,
welcome to headquarters a little bit.
Peter called me and said
if I could, to come down here tonight, tomorrow night,
but tomorrow night is LGDD meeting.
You know, the Lesbian/Gay Democrats.
Man: We also heard from John Solan.
S-O-L-A-N.
Jack: I don't have anything on him.
Man: He does not want to be endorsed.
Jack: Well, oh, and incidentally,
Jerry Bartow said courts has called
and said he will not be seeking our endorsement.
(men chuckling)
Man: That doesn't come as a surprise.
Jack: And Laurie Palmer just called me.
I was busily taking a bath,
and she left a message on my answering machine
that she would like to be scheduled
for sometime after 7:30 on Thursday.
So I will call her back tomorrow on set up.
The only, Al Lipscomb is at 7:45,
and there's nobody till Marvin Stay at 8:45.
So I'll get in touch with Laurie Palmer's office
at city hall.
Make an appointment for her.
Man: Okay.
Jack: And, so far, I've gotten,
well, Al Gonzales.
They're gonna call me back
to make a screening appointment for him.
Man: Al Gonzales?
Jack: Yeah. Al Gonzales.
It's a guy in district one.
Man: Place ten. He wants to screen?
Jack: Well, I called him,
and I talked to him,
and he referred me,
just a minute, I'll tell you,
to his consultant, Carol Reed associates,
and then Carol Reed called me back,
and ask for the times that were open.
And she's supposed to get back with me tomorrow.
I'll get back with her tomorrow.
So I presume that he's going to screen.
Man: I guess. That's shocking.
Jack: Why is it shocking?
Man: Well, I though Alvin Alice was very, anti-gay.
Very much establishment,
and stark, Taylor man.
Jack: Well, I don't know.
Man: They might start to run.
Jack: They're,
you know, up to this point,
I think they're talking like they're going to screen.
Man: Okay. Well let me go.
Jack: I mean, I'll find out tomorrow.
Man: Okay.
Okay, and I'm gonna let you go.
And I've got him next place calling the meeting to get to.
Jack: Okay.
Man: Let me call Peter,
and was he in Al's room, or at home?
Jack: Oh, you'll see him there.
Man: Was he in Al's room?
Or at home, you know?
Jack: I don't know. He called me during the day.
Man: Okay. I'll see if I can reach him.
Jack: I'm not certain where he was when he called.
Man: Okay. Jack: Okay.
Man: All right. Talk to you later.
Jack: Bye-bye
(loud buzzing)
Yes. It's still open.
Secretary: Wonderful.
Jack: 9:15.
Okay. That's for?
Secretary: Bill McCalten. Jack: Bill McCalten.
Secretary: And tell me again where these are,
so I write it directly.
Jack: All right.
We're at Mockingbird and Preston Road.
Okay. So, shopping buildings there.
Okay. One block North of that is St. Andrew's street.
Secretary: Right.
Jack: There's a traffic light there,
and a right down in the corner,
there's a parking lot,
and right in front of it is the Religious Education Building
of the First Unitarian Church.
Secretary: Okay.
Jack: And the screenings will be on the second floor
of the Religious Education Building in room 206.
Secretary: Okay.
Jack: And we're certainly looking forward to seeing him.
Secretary: All right. Thank you very much.
Jack: Thank you.
Secretary: Bye-bye. Jack: Bye-bye.
Hello? Kathleen: Hi, Jack.
Kathleen. Jack: This is Jack Crout.
-: Mr Crout, here on Gonzales.
Jack: Yes?
Kathleen: I just checked with him
and Al will not be able to attend,
and he will not be seeking the endorsement.
Jack: Okay.
Kathleen: But thank you for calling.
Jack: Oh, okay. Bye-bye
(phone ringing)
Hello?
Alice: Jack? Jack: Yes.
Alice: This is Alice Jasmine.
Jack: Yes?
Alice: I want to know what is my interview tomorrow?
Jack: Okay. I have you down for 7:30,
Alice: 7:30?
Jack: Yes, 7:30 tomorrow evening.
Alice: Okay. That's all I need to know.
Jack: Okay. Bye-bye
Alice: Bye.
Jack: Hello.
Tad: Jack Crout, please.
Jack: This is Jack Crout.
Tad: This is Tad Boyle, from city council office.
Jack: Yes!
Tad: Yes. You'd called yesterday afternoon.
Jack: Yes. I saw Laurie last night
at the Lesbian/Gay Democrats meeting,
and she said eight o'clock tomorrow night
to screen with us.
Tad: Okay.
Jack: So she's probably just forgot to tell you.
Tad: Yeah, she did. Eight o'clock?
Jack: Eight o'clock tomorrow night, the 26th.
Tad: Okay, great.
Where's that gonna be?
Jack: It's at the Religious Education Building,
for the First Unitarian church room 206.
And that's at the corner of St. Andrew's and Preston Road.
Tad: Okay.
Alrighty. Well, thanks for calling me back.
I appreciate that.
Jack: Oh, okay.
Tad: All right. Jack: Bye-bye.
Tad: Bye-bye.
(phone ringing)
Secretary: Berger's campaign headquarters.
May I help you?
Jack: I am Jack Crout
with the Lesbian/Gay Political Coalition,
and we think that we sent Mr. Berger a questionnaire
with respect to seeking endorsement in our group,
but we haven't heard yay or nay, as it were, from him.
Secretary: He has not sent your questionnaire back?
Jack: No, no, no. He hasn't.
And he's one of the few candidates who hasn't.
Even those who said no.
So we would like to,
we appreciated an answer very much.
Of course we would like to screen him,
as a matter of fact for endorsement.
Secretary: Right. What is your number, Jack?
Jack: My number is 343-4502.
Secretary: Okay. Well, I'll give him this message,
and see what he can come up with.
Jack: All right. Thank you so much.
Secretary: Okay. Jack: Bye.
Secretary: Bye.
(phone ringing)
Woman: Office?
Jack: This is Jack Crout,
Lesbian/Gay Political Coalition.
I'd like to speak to someone in Diane Ragsdale's office.
Woman: Well, her page just stepped away.
Can I have her call you back?
Jack: Yes, I'm at 343-4502
Woman: Okay. And what is your last name, sir?
Jack: That's Jack Crout.
C R O U T.
Woman: And this is in regards to what, sir?
Jack: This is in regards to
their answering a questionnaire that we sent them,
and a possible screening
by Diane for endorsement by our group.
Lesbian/Gay Political Coalition.
Woman: Okay. Okay.
Okay.
Jack: Political coalition.
Woman: Okay, I'll give him the message.
Jack: Thank you so much.
Woman: Bye-bye
Jack: Hello?
Kim: Can I speak to Jack Crout, please?
Jack: This is Jack Crout.
Kim: Mr Crout, hi, this is Kim Walker
in Ms. Maxwell's office.
Jack: Yes!
Kim: I spoke with you yesterday,
or day before? Jack: Day before yesterday.
Kim: Okay, I wanted to,
I did, I wrote down every,
all the times and everything,
and your number and where it was gonna be,
but I didn't write the organization.
Jack: It's the Lesbian/Gay Political Coalition.
Kim: Oh, okay.
The Lesbian/Gay Political Coalition.
Jack: Now, we had a screening session last night
and we're having one tonight.
And the times that are now open.
Kim: Oh, you have times?
Jack: Oh, yes, yes.
But as I say, one night has passed,
and tonight we have open 7:30,
8:15, 8:30 and 9:00, and 9:15.
Now possibly,
we had to have a couple of candidates
that canceled last night because of the weather.
So we need to know as soon as possible
what time Diane would like to come,
if she can make it,
because I will be, of course,
in contact with these other candidates too.
Kim: Okay.
All right. Jack: We do very much
want to get a questionnaire completed from Diane,
and to screen her for endorsement,
because we frankly, we do want to endorse her.
Kim: Okay, all right.
Well, let me get back with her on these times,
and find out if she had some available on her calendar.
And then I'll get back with you a little later.
Jack: I sure appreciate it.
Kim: Okay.
Jack: Bye-bye
(phone ringing)
(man sighing)
Jack: Hello?
Man: Jack? How's it going?
Jack: Okay.
Man: Have you heard from anyone else?
Jack: Yes. Charles Tandy.
Man: Do you think he's gonna come?
Jack: Yes, at 9:15 tonight.
Man: Oh God, that means
we're gonna have to, he can't come earlier?
Jack: No. They have other engagements.
Man: Oh, geez. Jack: I mean, after all,
this is pretty close to the wire, you know?
Man: I know. So that means that we're gonna have to
be meeting later.
You need to put me on hold, or something?
Jack: No, I didn't.
Man: Okay.
Jack: So that's where we stand.
I have touched base with Diane's office again.
Man: Okay.
Jack: And emphasized that we do want to see her.
Man: And that we an take her questionnaire.
Jack: Well, now there,
now I'll tell you when I'm doing.
This is my strategy.
I told her,
the woman in her office,
that we did need to have the questionnaire filled out,
and that we would like to screen her.
I gave her the times available,
and she's gonna call me back. Okay?
Now, if she says that she can't make it,
then I'll tell her
that we'll pick up the questionnaire,
and we won't ask her to screen.
Man: Okay.
Jack: You understand what I'm saying?
Man: Yes. Jack: I'm trying to get
the Corpus delicti out here.
Man: I don't know.
I just want to get to be able to endorse it.
But have you heard from Berger at all?
Jack: No, not yet,
but I'm to call them out a little later,
maybe about three o'clock.
Man: Well, why don't you just wait till,
they have your number, don't they?
Jack: Yeah.
Man: Well, you know,
you called them, what, already yesterday?
Jack: Yes.
Man: And left a message,
and we'd sent two letters to them.
Well, you know, don't exert yourself.
Do whatever you feel like doing.
But at this point
we've done the most that we can do with people.
Jack: Yeah, and I,
Man: I think it's been sort of fun though, haven't you?
Jack: Oh yeah! I've enjoyed it.
Let, just for kicks.
Let me see if I can find, take a canvas message,
because I think it's very enlightening.
Man: Okay. Jack: Just a minute.
Here at the corner,
Man: Okay?
Jack: You just pull right in there.
And then the Religious Education Building
is right in front of you.
And I go up to the second floor.
Man: Second.
Jack: And take a right, and 206. Room 206.
Man: 206. Okay. We'll be there.
Jack: All right. That's 9:15.
Man: 9:15, I have it.
Jack: Okay, baby. Bye.
Otis: Hello?
Jack: This is Jack Crout.
Otis: Jack, this is Otis Mazero.
Jack: Oh yes, Mr. Mazero. We missed you last night.
Otis: Well, I had a one of the mayoral candidate
came and pulled me over to that Warren Street,
Methodist Church.
He said, everybody's gonna be over there.
So I said, well, okay then.
He said, "Well, you gotta go to this."
Jack: Well,
we have some openings up at tonight's screening session,
if you'd like to come tonight?
Otis: Well,
can I just come on the third?
I've got you down here for March the third.
Jack: Yes. Yes. You can come that night, if you wish.
Otis: That's maybe where I'm going tonight.
I'm going at 5:30 to be Benny Keith,
over there off behind.
They got a big thing of all the people over there.
So I've got to go where I can get the biggest crowd.
Jack, you understand that?
I need name recognition.
And then after that, I go from there, 7:30,
out to Ridgewood Republican Women
at the community center,
right off of Abram's at 6818 Fisher Road.
So, and then I've been to
the Dallas Board of Realtors this morning.
They had about 40 of them,
sitting there around the table,
and asking me questions, and so forth.
And then I went to the Dallas Morning News,
and had a color picture made at 11:00 AM,
down at the morning news.
And I had lunch with some people
that they're gonna help me in my campaign with some money.
Jack: Well, listen,
Otis: Bell announcing last night.
He spoke out there too.
Jack: Yes, he did.
He was the first person we screened.
He was the first person we screened last night.
Otis: He was?
Well, I'll be darned.
Well, I was out in all that rain and got soaked myself.
But I was trying to fight the traffic
all the way from this end of town in North Dallas,
all the way down Oakland and over.
The freeway was absolutely covered.
Jack: I can imagine. I can imagine.
We had a good turnout,
and we really weren't expecting to have one
because of that rain, you know?
Otis: Yeah.
Jack: And you were actually the only candidate
that didn't show.
Otis: Well, I'm so sorry.
But this mayoral candidate told me that
that I had to be at this other place,
that you missed the one out at
Brooke Haven Country Club today.
And he said your opponent was there,
and he didn't say much, but at least he showed up.
Jack: Yeah.
Otis: Said, you better get your butt out there tonight,
with me.
Jack: Well, listen, be sure and come March 3rd.
Otis: All right. Now I've got that down.
Jack: And it's the same place
where the screening sessions were to be held.
Otis: All right, what time?
Jack: It'd be at 7:30.
Pam: Can I speak to Mr. Crout, please?
Jack: This is Jack Crout.
Pam: Mr Crout, hi, this is Pam Walker,
in Ms. Maxwell's office.
Jack: Yes?
Pam: I'm calling to let you know Mr. Crout
her calendar is just overwhelmed,
and she will not be able to get out there anytime tonight.
Jack: Well, I tell you what,
while we would very much like to actually
personally have her at a screening session,
it's not totally necessary, in her case.
What we do have to have is her questionnaire completed,
and forwarded to us.
Pam: Okay, okay.
Jack: In fact, somebody could pick it up,
if it, you know?
Necessary,
because we have a rule in our screening process,
Pam: Oh, I'm sure.
Jack: Where, well, that the questionnaire is required.
All right?
But with respect to screening,
if our identified voters and the district are 2% or less,
which is the case in Diane's,
we won't require screening other candidates.
So if she doesn't, if she just can't screen,
we're gonna have a candidates night on March 3rd,
which is for those who didn't have a chance to screen.
We would be delighted to have her March 3rd.
But if she can't even make that,
the questionnaire will be all it's necessary.
Pam: Okay. Well, let me get back with you.
Could I get back with you sometime tomorrow?
I'm headed out right now.
Jack: Okay. Okay.
Pam: And let me get back with you in the morning
about the questionnaire,
and I could come and pick it up,
and make sure we get it for you.
Jack: One was mailed to her.
Pam: Oh, it was?
Jack: Yes.
Pam: Was it mailed to her house, or to her office?
Jack: I don't know for sure about that.
But you, let's get back together tomorrow,
in the meantime, try to locate that questionnaire.
Pam: All right. I certainly will.
Jack: And, we'll see what we can work out.
Pam: Okay. Jack: All right.
Pam: All right, Mr Crout.
Jack: All right.
(man speaking)
Yes, Al?
Al: Craig just talked to me
on some other matters,
but he can't remember what time
he's supposed to be screen tonight.
Jack: Seven o'clock, he's first out of the box.
Al: All right, I'll call him back
and I'll tell him that that's the time.
Jack: Okay.
Al: All right. Thank you.
Jack: Bye-bye. Al: Bye.
Jack: Hello? Bruna: Yes, Mr Crout?
Jack: This is Mr Crout.
Bruna: This is Bruna Thomas.
You had called me this evening?
Jack: Yes, sure had.
Bruna: Okay.
Was last night my screening?
Jack: Yes, it was.
And, but we do have some open times this evening
if you can come?
Bruna: Okay. Now where is Normandy and Preston?
Jack: Well actually,
you know where Mockingbird crosses Preston,
at Highland Park Shopping Village?
Bruna: Mockingbird. Yes, uh huh.
Jack: Okay.
Now the first street North of that is St. Andrews. Okay?
And then the next street is Normandy,
but since the screening is being held
in the Religious Education Building
at the First Unitarian Church.
It's at the corner of St. Andrews and Preston Road.
So what you want to,
turn right at St. Andrew's,
and there's a parking lot right there on the corner.
Bruna: Okay.
Jack: And park in that parking lot,
and the Religious Education Building
is right in front of that parking lot.
Bruna: Okay. So it's best for me to come in
at Mockingbird then?
Jack: Come up Mockingbird.
Right.
Bruna: Okay. What time is yours?
What time do you have available?
Jack: Okay. I have a 7:30, 8:15 and 8:30.
Bruna: Okay. Let me come at 8:30,
cause I'm just getting in,
and I should be, I mean let me get a breather in,
and I'm doing everything,
and I'll be there by 8:30.
Jack: Now, wait a minute. Wait a minute.
I see I've had a cancellation here for nine o'clock.
Would that be more convenient?
Bruna: Well, I can be there at 8:30.
Jack: At 8:30? All right.
All right. I'll schedule you for 8:30 then.
Bruna: Okay.
Jack: All right. Bruna: Thank you.
For calling. I'll be there.
Jack: Bye-bye. Bruna: Bye-bye.