The Rice Thresher (Houston, Tex.), Vol. 63, No. 48, Ed. 1 Thursday, April 1, 1976 Page: 4 of 16
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Ex-SA Pres. Wayne Hale reminisces: Rice is nice
by GARY BREWTON
Former Student Association
President Wayne Hale
consented to this interview
recently, in which he looks
back on his years at Rice and
his role in student govern-
ment.
Thresher: To begin with,
what was your biggest
personal accomplishment
this year?
Hale: Well, that everything
came off fairly well on
schedule like it was supposed
to. 1 had a couple of pet projects
that 1 wanted to work on, hut
instead I got totally absorbed
m running the organization. 1
didn't get it all 100% right, hut
just getting most of the things
done was an accomplishment,
and I'm rather happy with all
the stuff I got done this year.
I)o you consider yourself a
campus politico?
Oh, gee, no, but everybody
says I am, so maybe 1 am.
Would you say that you've
been in a position to
influence University
policy?
More than 1 thought I would
be. actually.
In what ways?
Particularly in student affairs.
My opinion wasn't always
taken, but 1 felt—and I feel this
very strongly—that when I
gave an opinion it was very
carefully considered.
Do you think Hackerman
respected your opinions?
I really got that feeling, I think
he did. I talked to him on a
couple of occasions, and I
always thought he listened to
my opinions.
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Do you think Hackerman
can be trusted?
Yes, definitely. He's got a bad
image around here, for a
variety of reasons. But a prime
example is a couple of years
ago, when there was a
proposal to put a student on
the Board of Governors. Dr.
Hackerman did not agree with
that, but he took it over to the
Board, and did as good a job as
anybody could've wanted in
presenting the student's
reasons for wanting a student
on the Board. Then the Board
asked him what he thought,
and he told them the thought it
wasn't very good. From the
standpoint that he went ahead
and told the Board what the
students wanted him to tell the
Board, yeah — he can be
trusted.
What do students think
about the SA Senate?
A lot of people think the Senate
is a debating society, when
what appear to be minority
points really aren't. . . Just
sitting around talking these
things out ad nauseum is a
worthwhile thing, but it leads
to students thinking the
Senate doesn't do anything,
which I definitely don't think
is the case.
What have you done to
build up respect for the SA
and the Senate?
Well, personally I've always
tried to explain to people
what's going on—people ask
me. I've always tried to run
things in the Senate so that we
get things accomplished.
Did you ever feel that you
were just a bureaucrat?
Oh, gee, yeah—more times
than I wish I did. There's so
much paper shuffling that
sometimes I'd get bogged
down in it. I didn't want to feel
that way when I went into the
job, but I came out feeling that
I did more than just that.
Let me get a little personal
information. Who is this
person Wayne Hale?
(Laughter.) I'm a mechanical
engineering major. I've got a
fellowship to Purdue and I'd
like to do research for my
master's thesis on solar
energy. It's fun, interesting
from an engineering point of
view.
Where are you from?
I was born in Clovis, New
Mexico., moved around a
couple of years, and settled in
. . . yet other times he is serene in his authority.
(Photos from 1974 and 1975 Campaniles.)
Hobbs, N.M. around the age of
six.
What's your favorite color?
Blue.
What kind of music do you
like?
Pop music. I like the
Carpenters and John Denver.
Were you involved in
student government in
high school?
No, not really.
How did you get dragged
into Rice student govern-
ment?
I was very active in high
school in debate and in my
church and in a whole bunch
of other things, and when I
came to Rice I wasn't doing
anything. I started out
working at KTRU, and got to
know some of these people
[campus politicos], and they
had a position open as
Parliamentarian. I thought,
'This sounds like something
that's kinda keen,' and it
would get me involved, and I'd
get to get in and see how the
decisions are made and what
all's going on around campus.
So I got to be Parliamentarian,
and I stayed with that job for
two years. About the middle of
the second year, Lolly
Prestridge (former Off-
Campus Senator) asked me
'You're going to run for SA
President, aren't you?' And I
said, 'Whatever gave you that
idea. I hadn't even thought
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more I thought about it, the
more I realized that I would
really enjoy doing it. So, when
the time came, I did it—and
I've enjoyed it.
Do you think the Pub has
improved things here at
Rice? I know you don't
drink.
I think it's done quite a bit for
the social life. It's a place for
people to meet.
Has it created any pro-
blems?
There are a few minor
discipline problems. Also,
right now the Pub Board is
working on a plan to fund
some research and counseling
into alcohol and alcoholism.
What about the campus
drug scene?
It seems to be better than when
I was a freshman. There's less
marijuana smoke in the halls
now.
What do you think the
University should do about
drugs on campus?
That's a difficult question. I
think the University has to
exercise some kind of control,
otherwise the state and federal
authorities will. If there are
reports of "pushing" on
campus, then I think they
definitely have to take some
action.
Do you have any future
political aspirations?
None whatsoever.
Not even in an informal
group such as the Alumni
Association?
Not at the current time.
Do you have any final
thoughts about Rice after
four years?
I'm glad I came. I have a lot of
friends here and I've learned a
lot. I think it's a lot better place
than people will tell you right
offhand.
Reprints of this exclusive interview
are available from the Thresher
office (x4801)—special rates for
orders of 50 or more.
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Brewton, Gary. The Rice Thresher (Houston, Tex.), Vol. 63, No. 48, Ed. 1 Thursday, April 1, 1976, newspaper, April 1, 1976; Houston, Texas. (https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth245288/m1/4/: accessed July 18, 2024), University of North Texas Libraries, The Portal to Texas History, https://texashistory.unt.edu.; crediting Rice University Woodson Research Center.