do nowadays, so we spent of lot of time learning what we called squad tactics. These are tactics used in the military to try to save your life. The day went by rather fast, because we stayed busy. What was your meal time like? Those were interesting. Usually the Marines, ironically, a lot of times are stationed at naval air stations, and the Navy and the Marines love each other but they'd ridicule us, so a lot of times we couldn't digest our food because the sailors were aggravating us. But it was fun. Other than that, the meals in the states were no problem. You got your meals on time, and the food was good. Overseas, it was different. Sometimes you would stand in line for as long as two hours for your meals because of the number of people involved. You mentioned in your paper your food would even freeze before you could eat it. Is that right? Yes. Korea was a very cold climate. The coldest I ever experienced was 26 below zero, and you did have to get in line to get your food from the mess hall or mess tents, and a lot of time before you could find you a rock to sit down on, your food, like sliced peaches of something on that order, would actually freeze to your mess kit. A mess kit is a metal container that soldiers eat out of. This was really cold weather in Korea-very cold. What were your views on the enemy at the time? No personal views. The main thing when you're in combat is you're just trying to stay alive and you're defending your country. Plus you're doing what you're told. You don't really have any personal animosity against the enemy. It's just a matter of doing what you're there for. Do you have any particular memories that stand out that you'd like to share? I don't talk war too much, but one I think of in particular was on the way to Korea. The ship was heavily loaded with highly explosive material that they loaded before we left the Port of San Francisco. During the middle of the night, we encountered two unidentified submarines, and the lights went out. The